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I do think since you purchased it acknowledging the vibration they may not be willing to work with you. They technically gave you things in return for accepting the shake. You could always try but in your case you purchased the truck with the knowledge of it have the vibrations. Give it a shot!

Lemon law still applies in FL

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This is the Oklahoma lemon law. Very vague.

http://www.ok.gov/omvc/documents/Lemon%20Law%20Guide.pdf

 

BBB is the only course of action in Oklahoma besides a lawsuit.

that is normal and its like that in almost every state.

 

I also had to go through the BBB lemon law and GM at first and waste 2 months until they told me they wouldn't do anything and at that point I met the requirement to try BBB first.

 

then I got a lawyer and filed lemon law in civil court which took another 6 months but I won and cashed my full refund check this week.

 

you say "besides a lawsuit" like its a bad thing, but the lawyer is paid by GM or doesn't get paid at all in a lemon lawsuit in civil court so how can you look at it as a negative beyond being a process that takes another 6-8 months to end?

 

you could still lose if you win in that you may only get a partial refund based on reduced vehicle value because of the poor operating condition devalues its resale value, so there is no guarranty in the outcome and often they just devalue the vehicle a few thousand dollars and that's all you get and you are still stuck with the vehicle. if this happens it pretty much offsets most off the loss of trading in in on another vehicle, so if all you get is a partial refund you just trade it in after that so its still a win and gets you out without being hurt badly.

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Wow good to know that GM is just buying back and selling the same problematic vehicle to another person instead of giving it to a group of engineers to test and discover the actual problem. Its great that you got a deal and an extra year of warranty because all the vibration is going to cause more issues down the road. In my opinion if the vibration bothers you then you shouldn't have bought it.

agree 1000%

 

you bought a lemon knowing it was a lemon so go buy an "im stupid" tee shirt to wear and stop complaining about a defect you knew full well about before you even bought it and signed a waiver saying you accept it with this unfixable defect.

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So i've been fighting with Gm since October. They have basically told me to go pound sand. None of the dealers in town will help me and the BBB is a waste of time. I found an attorney to take my case but I need an ase certified mechanic to confirm the vibration before he will go to court even though it states a vibration in my numerous work orders. No mechanics in town will help me because no one wants to deal with going to court.

 

At this point i'm about to just trade it in and cut my losses. Anyone have any new info recalls or just anything that will help me get my truck fixed????????????

 

I read about the body mounts and i'm waiting to hear back from more people in this thread before I do it.

you will lose an average of $10,000 off the purchase price on a trade-in, if you are ok with that then do it.

 

if not go get a certified mechanic and pay him $100 for an hour to test drive it and confirm the problem. if you don't know one, ask your attorney who to bring it to, his choice in mechanic might be the best choice anyway since they know what each others paperwork needs and language are.

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I will say this one last time to everyone with vibration issues, because I got my full refund cash buy back through civil court lawsuit after BBB and GM rep wasted my time for 2 months stalling the process before saying "well the service ticket says its not vibrating".

 

MAKE A VIDEO WITH WATER BOTTLES TO CLEARLY SHOW HOW BAD THE VIBRATIONS ARE, AND POST IT ON YOUTUBE.

 

DOING THIS IS THE MAIN REASON I WON MY CASE, BECAUSE THEY CAN LIE ALL THEY WANT TO, BUY THEY CANT LIE AWAY A VIDEO SHOWING HOW BAD IT VIBRATES SO THEY CANT GO INTO COURT AND MAKE A JURY THINK YOU ARE JUST IMAGINING IT.

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I need some help. They rf balanced, replaced 2 rears, and corrected a positive caster issue.

Felt good for a few days.

 

Rear still better but now vibration in front again. It feels like a flat spot and seeming to get worse. As well, the left front is cupping more. these fronts were rotated from the rear a month ago and looked identical on the outside shoulder, now the left front looks cupped worse. The rears they replaced also had one cupped worse from the left front.

What could cause?

I need some help. They rf balanced, replaced 2 rears, and corrected a positive caster issue.

Felt good for a few days.

 

Rear still better but now vibration in front again. It feels like a flat spot and seeming to get worse. As well, the left front is cupping more. these fronts were rotated from the rear a month ago and looked identical on the outside shoulder, now the left front looks cupped worse. The rears they replaced also had one cupped worse from the left front.

What could cause?

I need some help. They rf balanced, replaced 2 rears, and corrected a positive caster issue.

Felt good for a few days.

 

Rear still better but now vibration in front again. It feels like a flat spot and seeming to get worse. As well, the left front is cupping more. these fronts were rotated from the rear a month ago and looked identical on the outside shoulder, now the left front looks cupped worse. The rears they replaced also had one cupped worse from the left front.

What could cause?

I need some help. They rf balanced, replaced 2 rears, and corrected a positive caster issue.

Felt good for a few days.

 

Rear still better but now vibration in front again. It feels like a flat spot and seeming to get worse. As well, the left front is cupping more. these fronts were rotated from the rear a month ago and looked identical on the outside shoulder, now the left front looks cupped worse. The rears they replaced also had one cupped worse from the left front.

What could cause?

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Had mine in Saturday for my first Free oil change and tire rotation... Had them look into my 70-75 MPH Vibration and agreed it has one... They rebalanced all 4 tires and say the LF needed 1 1/2 OZ... Is that alot? She made it out to be but I have no idea... They also tell me that it is better but may still have a vibe and for me to test it... I didn't get a chance to talk to them directly or test it with them because I got there after service dept hours... I haven't had a chance to test it yet but will today after work... I don't have a worm fuzzy about it especially after reading this Thread...

 

Stay Tuned.

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Hello everyone,

 

I posted this in the Colorado section but have been reading this thread and feel like it is probably the better place to post. I have a 2015 Colorado that was built 2 months ago and i have owned it for a month and am having the same shakes and vibrations that everyone else seems to be having with the Silverado. Obviously making me super confident in Chevrolet's build quality. My shakes start around 75 but really become noticeable around 80 and up. The passenger seat shakes like a massage chair. I have taken chevy techs for a ride and they agreed there was a shake but then they keep the truck for a week saying they performed tests and couldn't find a shake and just balance the tires. I have since recorded multiple videos with my GoPro attached to the seat that will be hitting Youtube and EVERY other social media if they still try and play it off as No shake or Normal.

 

I read the first 30 pages of the thread and then realized I really don't want to go through all 300+ pages. Has anyone figured out any common fix? I know i have read 1 or 2 people that found something that worked for them such as tires but doesn't seem like its fixed a majority of trucks.

 

I have yet another appointment with my local dealer so I am keeping my fingers crossed they can fix it and i will be showing them this thread

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Link to my Colorado Forum Thread.. http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/174291-2015-coloradocanyon-shakes-vibrates/

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Had mine in Saturday for my first Free oil change and tire rotation... Had them look into my 70-75 MPH Vibration and agreed it has one... They rebalanced all 4 tires and say the LF needed 1 1/2 OZ... Is that alot? She made it out to be but I have no idea... They also tell me that it is better but may still have a vibe and for me to test it... I didn't get a chance to talk to them directly or test it with them because I got there after service dept hours... I haven't had a chance to test it yet but will today after work... I don't have a worm fuzzy about it especially after reading this Thread...

 

Stay Tuned.

Yes, that's definitely a lot and you will feel vibration from a wheel/tire that is so much out. Imbalance of up to 0.5 oz per wheel is the limit of tolerance on a light truck like yours. On a passenger car with firm sport suspension, imbalance of only up to .25 oz per wheel can be tolerated without annoying vibration.

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Yes, that's definitely a lot and you will feel vibration from a wheel/tire that is so much out. Imbalance of up to 0.5 oz per wheel is the limit of tolerance on a light truck like yours. On a passenger car with firm sport suspension, imbalance of only up to .25 oz per wheel can be tolerated without annoying vibration.

Thanks pm26 for the information... I feel a little more optimistic about the vibe being better after that rebalance beings is was out that much... I actually was on auto pilot, as usual, leaving work being only 6 miles from work and forgot to jump on the highway to test her out...

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Hello everyone,

 

I posted this in the Colorado section but have been reading this thread and feel like it is probably the better place to post. I have a 2015 Colorado that was built 2 months ago and i have owned it for a month and am having the same shakes and vibrations that everyone else seems to be having with the Silverado. Obviously making me super confident in Chevrolet's build quality. My shakes start around 75 but really become noticeable around 80 and up. The passenger seat shakes like a massage chair. I have taken chevy techs for a ride and they agreed there was a shake but then they keep the truck for a week saying they performed tests and couldn't find a shake and just balance the tires. I have since recorded multiple videos with my GoPro attached to the seat that will be hitting Youtube and EVERY other social media if they still try and play it off as No shake or Normal.

 

I read the first 30 pages of the thread and then realized I really don't want to go through all 300+ pages. Has anyone figured out any common fix? I know i have read 1 or 2 people that found something that worked for them such as tires but doesn't seem like its fixed a majority of trucks.

 

I have yet another appointment with my local dealer so I am keeping my fingers crossed they can fix it and i will be showing them this thread

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Link to my Colorado Forum Thread.. http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/174291-2015-coloradocanyon-shakes-vibrates/

the only fix is a lemon lawsuit and in most cases that involves a civil court lawsuit after the BB lemon procedure fails to help.

 

that said, about one out of 100 of these lemons can be made to reduce the vibrations enough to fool the owner into thinking its fixed and no longer there (because they want it to be fixed so badly) but it never goes away. "if" it can be reduced enough, most people are happy with the vehicles after. most times balancing the tires just puts them in "sequence" so the vibrations offset each other until you put enough miles that they get out of sequence again and the vibrations come back.

 

it is a defective vehicle design, plain and simple, along with a host of other bad parts that can make it more pronounce or not so much depending on each individual vehicle. GM is even reselling the buy back vehicles as-is telling people they vibratre so they can unload them. they would not do this if there was "any" way to really fix them.

 

I had "hoped" the Colorado was immune to this defect but I suspected it might have it too, seeing as how its just a smaller exact copy of the big truck and they obviously copied the same defective design close enough to copy the defect as well

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As a prospective buyer, this vibration issue is scary....primarily because GM hasn't been able to fix all of them which tells me either they don't totally understand the root problem(s) or it is incurable in some cases. If it happens under warranty, at least you have some options but not all of the vibrators have started vibrating right out of the chute. So for people like me that hold them a long time, I'm scared it might start vibrating after the warranty expires and that would be a big problem because (a) the real complete and permanent fix is still unknown and (b) the cost to fix it is also therefore unknown.

 

I recognize many of them don't vibrate but I've read cases where it only started vibrating after several thousand miles (some as late as 30,000 miles?) so I'm concerned that it could start at any time and leave you with something that can't be fixed. For a buyer of a $40K-$50K vehicle, that's scary.

 

BT

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Ok so I talked to my attorney again and he asked me to try one more dealership about 30 min away. Dropped it off yesterday and they called me a couple hours later saying it was the smoothest truck they have driven up to this point and asked me to come back and take them on a drive to point out what I was talking about.

 

 

I took the service advisor on a test drive this morning and took the truck to 80 and the whole thing started shaking and he immediately said I feel it.

Also tried saying that since its at highway speeds they might have to document it and wait for it to get worse but he would talk to his boss and let me know.

 

Also I have a clunk when you let off the gas to coast (so you can hear the whine when off throttle) and then give it gas again there is a clunk. He tells me this is normal with 4x4 trucks. Is this true?

 

 

Also does anyone has a list of all the recalls out so I can print it out and hand it to him and ask that they all be done? Thanks for everyone's help btw.

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