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46 minutes ago, jlozzi said:

I have been following this thread for 3 years now and it seems that they (GM) haven't been able to correct this issue at all. I too had a 15 that was shaking all over the place and the dealer bought it back from me and then I got a 16 and that one seemed fine and now I have an 18 and I am back in the same boat.

 

Has there been any talk about a class action lawsuit about this issue?

 

As a side note, my 16 had Micheline tires on it and the 18 has the Goodyear's and i am on set # 2 of the same crap tires, the truck just turned 1000 miles. 

 

Love the truck.. hate the Chevy shake.

Well, if your question about a class action law suit is to me;  I believe I’ve seen posts on this thread stating that various folks have discussed the possibility with an attorney.  Seems that none want to take it on because there’s not an injury or death risk.  Also, if you read through the 816 pages you will find that just about every part and component on the 1500 has been listed as the cause, maybe with the exception of the radio volume knob.  Being sarcastic but you get the idea, there’s no single cause that can be definitively identified as the root cause.  Lastly, GM has lots more money and attorneys than anyone on this thread and can outlast them.  So, I’m guessing that those with the Chevy Shake will have to endure or sell....

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I feel like GM will finally have a recall. Interesting to see what will unfold. 

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1 hour ago, Barak said:

I feel like GM will finally have a recall. Interesting to see what will unfold. 

Fortunately my 2015 doesn’t and never has had the Chevy Shake, knock on wood.  But, this generation truck is now out of production as five years old.  And chatter about a recall and a class action suit has been on-going since the fall of 2013.  Hope those of you who’s truck has CS get relief for sure.  But, the longer this drags out the less likely it will happen I think.

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1 hour ago, Barak said:

I feel like GM will finally have a recall. Interesting to see what will unfold. 

I think recalls are only issued when there is a dangerous or unsafe component or condition. 

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On 2018-11-08 at 8:14 AM, tnchevy said:

I think you put too much trust in what GM tells you.  There is no such thing as "better quality" tires that GM keeps over what Good Year factory produces and never trust the dealership to do anything right.  The SRA's are some of the cheapest tires out there for a reason but GY does make some excellent tires but like most things in life they will cost you more. 

Actually, it's a known fact that the tires installed on most new cars are far superior to aftermarket replacements. It all about "tire uniformity", where the tire manufacturers test and grade each tire coming off the line. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_uniformity

 

here is the multi-million dollar machine they use:

 

 

So, the car manufacturers specify a minimum Uniformity Grade when they buy tires from the tire manufacturer, and only take the top quality tires. The rest....they end up at the tires shops and online retailers. That said, there would nothing stopping a carmaker from saving a few bucks and lowering the minimum quality level. 

 

And yes, this is very much the same topic and the Hunter Roadforce "balancing". 

 

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I have a 2015 double cab with 35k miles. I got new tires last week. I went from the stock dueller (255/70/17) to BFG KO2s (LT 265/70/17 load C). I never had the shake before, but now it started immediately after the new tires. I took the truck back to 4wheel parts who installed the tires and they rebalaced them. The shake is still occuring (~76mph +) and it seams worse than when I oroginally got the truck back. Has anyone else had this issue when changing tires? Also, my warranty will expire in ~500 miles. Do you think I should take it in to the dealer before the 36k mile warramty expires or just deal with 4wheel parts?

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1 hour ago, Mountaineers89 said:

I have a 2015 double cab with 35k miles. I got new tires last week. I went from the stock dueller (255/70/17) to BFG KO2s (LT 265/70/17 load C). I never had the shake before, but now it started immediately after the new tires. I took the truck back to 4wheel parts who installed the tires and they rebalaced them. The shake is still occuring (~76mph +) and it seams worse than when I oroginally got the truck back. Has anyone else had this issue when changing tires? Also, my warranty will expire in ~500 miles. Do you think I should take it in to the dealer before the 36k mile warramty expires or just deal with 4wheel parts?

What other work have you had done at 4 Wheel Parts;  lift kit, airbags, off-road suspension parts, etc?  Just curious.

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1 hour ago, Snoringbear said:

What other work have you had done at 4 Wheel Parts;  lift kit, airbags, off-road suspension parts, etc?  Just curious.

I had them install Bilstein 5100 shocks over a year ago. They did fine with that and I did not have any issues with vibrations afterwards. 

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Today was the day that ultimately cured the vibration issue for good and although somewhat bittersweet, I went from one of the roughest rides to the smoothest I have ever had. I wish I could have sold the set of brand new Michelin tires and OEM "20" rims to someone prior to the trade but it was one of those deals that just made sense. I do still have a 8 ft 3 fold hard bed cover for the few who have a long one that will go cheap! 

 

Happy Trails - GMC/LEX/Joe17

 

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6 hours ago, GMCJOE17 said:

Today was the day that ultimately cured the vibration issue for good and although somewhat bittersweet, I went from one of the roughest rides to the smoothest I have ever had. I wish I could have sold the set of brand new Michelin tires and OEM "20" rims to someone prior to the trade but it was one of those deals that just made sense. I do still have a 8 ft 3 fold hard bed cover for the few who have a long one that will go cheap! 

 

Happy Trails - GMC/LEX/Joe17

 

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Let's hope GM pays attention to this thread and see how their actions are turning people away from American cars and driving them to Asian vehicles. Nice ride Joe17, maybe Trump will kick GM in the ass and get them to take action on solving thier on this suspension. I wish Toyota would make the Sequoia in a full size capacity I would have purchased that versus my Suburban

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16 hours ago, Mountaineers89 said:

I have a 2015 double cab with 35k miles. I got new tires last week. I went from the stock dueller (255/70/17) to BFG KO2s (LT 265/70/17 load C). I never had the shake before, but now it started immediately after the new tires. I took the truck back to 4wheel parts who installed the tires and they rebalaced them. The shake is still occuring (~76mph +) and it seams worse than when I oroginally got the truck back. Has anyone else had this issue when changing tires? Also, my warranty will expire in ~500 miles. Do you think I should take it in to the dealer before the 36k mile warramty expires or just deal with 4wheel parts?

Hey Mountaineers,

 

This was actually the very first question I asked the DMA who worked on my truck, i.e., "What exactly do I do when it's time to replace tires?" He told me to get the OEM Goodyears again (which I won't be doing). I doubt your dealer will do much for you, since you had the tires replaced at 4 Wheel Parts. If you want them to take a gander at your driveline/suspension/driveshaft, save for your 5100s, then they might do that for you, but I doubt much else.

 

Luckily, you know that if the truck didn't shake beforehand and you had no other work done, it's definitely the tires. You're going to need to get them road force balanced. The GM spec is 15lbs for each tire, though since you changed sizes too, that might give you a little bit of leeway. When it does come time for me to get new tires, I'm going to make sure the shop replacing them knows that I won't accept a tire that is higher than the spec I was told by GM. I know it won't be a fun conversation, but I'm not going to go through this again.

 

In other news, since my dealer finally got mine road forced correctly (after 6 months), it's been about 500 miles of almost exclusive high driving (70-85pmh) and no vibes have returned for me as of yet. My truck is smoother than its ever been. I can drive it with one finger.

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1 hour ago, Olvim said:

Hey Mountaineers,

 

This was actually the very first question I asked the DMA who worked on my truck, i.e., "What exactly do I do when it's time to replace tires?" He told me to get the OEM Goodyears again (which I won't be doing). I doubt your dealer will do much for you, since you had the tires replaced at 4 Wheel Parts. If you want them to take a gander at your driveline/suspension/driveshaft, save for your 5100s, then they might do that for you, but I doubt much else.

 

Luckily, you know that if the truck didn't shake beforehand and you had no other work done, it's definitely the tires. You're going to need to get them road force balanced. The GM spec is 15lbs for each tire, though since you changed sizes too, that might give you a little bit of leeway. When it does come time for me to get new tires, I'm going to make sure the shop replacing them knows that I won't accept a tire that is higher than the spec I was told by GM. I know it won't be a fun conversation, but I'm not going to go through this again.

 

In other news, since my dealer finally got mine road forced correctly (after 6 months), it's been about 500 miles of almost exclusive high driving (70-85pmh) and no vibes have returned for me as of yet. My truck is smoother than its ever been. I can drive it with one finger.

Thanks for the help.  I will call to see how 4wheel parts has been balancing them and if they do or offer road force balancing.  I am not familiar with this, so I dont know what the 15 lbs means or how it would change due to tire size.  Hopefully I can get this fixed.  If they dont do road force balancing would you recommend going to the dealership to have them balance or somewhere else?

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