Shake or Vibration Issues

14silverado4.3 · June 6, 2016

So I was getting in my truck yesterday, and something caught my eye in the front driver rim. I check it out and look how much weight they put on it,I've never seen this much, its insane. They f*cking doubled it up on the same spot.

insane weight on driver front tire.png

Jesse, any vibration issues? lol

FFS, you had it for the last repair attempt and the GM jackasses do that - they aren't even trying.

Jesse Davidson · June 6, 2016

Jesse, any vibration issues? lol

FFS, you had it for the last repair attempt and the GM jackasses do that - they aren't even trying.

hahaha I know right. I will say the vibration is greatly reduced, still felt slightly, gets worse when on incline or declines and going around corners. The critical points of the vibration have changed too, the speeds dropped from 74 - 78 to 70-76 and 46 to 43. The change of the tires and weighting changed the critical speeds... but that weighting is just absurd. I'm going to go to some repair and tire shops and see if I can get a letter saying that it is beyond what is reasonable and use that in arbitration as well.

14silverado4.3 · June 6, 2016

hahaha I know right. I will say the vibration is greatly reduced, still felt slightly, gets worse when on incline or declines and going around corners. The critical points of the vibration have changed too, the speeds dropped from 74 - 78 to 70-76 and 46 to 43. The change of the tires and weighting changed the critical speeds... but that weighting is just absurd. I'm going to go to some repair and tire shops and see if I can get a letter saying that it is beyond what is reasonable and use that in arbitration as well.

gets worse when on incline or declines and going around corners - These are the same symptoms I have.

Has anyone here changed out the front hubs / rotors yet?

cato · June 6, 2016

Hey guys. So is there been a general consensus as to the true cause of vibrations with these trucks? Rigid frames? Transmission? Body mounts? Axles? All the above? I'm reading we've pretty much concluded it's not tires/rims correct?

Another question would be why does the vibe(s) seem to worsen over time? Tire wear possibly not absorbing it as well as when tread was new?

I have a mild vibe only on highway from about 55mph up. I could live with it as it is but if gets worse it's really gonna suck. Would love to minimize or eliminate it as much as possible IF possible. lol I just did a BDS lift with Fox coilovers and rears. Basically redid the whole suspension. It's not the suspension. At least not on my truck. Also regeared with Yukon 4.10's. Not the gears either. Vibe still there. Anyone rebuilt their tranny/ transfer case yet?

Thanks!

Hey guys. So is there been a general consensus as to the true cause of vibrations with these trucks? Rigid frames? Transmission? Body mounts? Axles? All the above? I'm reading we've pretty much concluded it's not tires/rims correct?

Another question would be why does the vibe(s) seem to worsen over time? Tire wear possibly not absorbing it as well as when tread was new?

I have a mild vibe only on highway from about 55mph up. I could live with it as it is but if gets worse it's really gonna suck. Would love to minimize or eliminate it as much as possible IF possible. lol I just did a BDS lift with Fox coilovers and rears. Basically redid the whole suspension. It's not the suspension. At least not on my truck. Also regeared with Yukon 4.10's. Not the gears either. Vibe still there. Anyone rebuilt their tranny/ transfer case yet?

Thanks!

14silverado4.3 · June 6, 2016

Hey guys. So is there been a general consensus as to the true cause of vibrations with these trucks? Rigid frames? Transmission? Body mounts? Axles? All the above? I'm reading we've pretty much concluded it's not tires/rims correct?

Another question would be why does the vibe(s) seem to worsen over time? Tire wear possibly not absorbing it as well as when tread was new?

I have a mild vibe only on highway from about 55mph up. I could live with it as it is but if gets worse it's really gonna suck. Would love to minimize or eliminate it as much as possible IF possible. lol I just did a BDS lift with Fox coilovers and rears. Basically redid the whole suspension. It's not the suspension. At least not on my truck. Also regeared with Yukon 4.10's. Not the gears either. Vibe still there. Anyone rebuilt their tranny/ transfer case yet?

Thanks!

Hey guys. So is there been a general consensus as to the true cause of vibrations with these trucks? Rigid frames? Transmission? Body mounts? Axles? All the above? I'm reading we've pretty much concluded it's not tires/rims correct?

Another question would be why does the vibe(s) seem to worsen over time? Tire wear possibly not absorbing it as well as when tread was new?

I have a mild vibe only on highway from about 55mph up. I could live with it as it is but if gets worse it's really gonna suck. Would love to minimize or eliminate it as much as possible IF possible. lol I just did a BDS lift with Fox coilovers and rears. Basically redid the whole suspension. It's not the suspension. At least not on my truck. Also regeared with Yukon 4.10's. Not the gears either. Vibe still there. Anyone rebuilt their tranny/ transfer case yet?

Thanks!

Hola, I have the same questions. Why can a tire get balanced and ride vibe free for several days to several weeks.... then vibrations start gradually getting worse?

That is the million dollar question...

Jesse Davidson · June 6, 2016

Hola, I have the same questions. Why can a tire get balanced and ride vibe free for several days to several weeks.... then vibrations start gradually getting worse?

That is the million dollar question...

Hey guys. So is there been a general consensus as to the true cause of vibrations with these trucks? Rigid frames? Transmission? Body mounts? Axles? All the above? I'm reading we've pretty much concluded it's not tires/rims correct?

Another question would be why does the vibe(s) seem to worsen over time? Tire wear possibly not absorbing it as well as when tread was new?

I have a mild vibe only on highway from about 55mph up. I could live with it as it is but if gets worse it's really gonna suck. Would love to minimize or eliminate it as much as possible IF possible. lol I just did a BDS lift with Fox coilovers and rears. Basically redid the whole suspension. It's not the suspension. At least not on my truck. Also regeared with Yukon 4.10's. Not the gears either. Vibe still there. Anyone rebuilt their tranny/ transfer case yet?

Thanks!

Hey guys. So is there been a general consensus as to the true cause of vibrations with these trucks? Rigid frames? Transmission? Body mounts? Axles? All the above? I'm reading we've pretty much concluded it's not tires/rims correct?

Another question would be why does the vibe(s) seem to worsen over time? Tire wear possibly not absorbing it as well as when tread was new?

I have a mild vibe only on highway from about 55mph up. I could live with it as it is but if gets worse it's really gonna suck. Would love to minimize or eliminate it as much as possible IF possible. lol I just did a BDS lift with Fox coilovers and rears. Basically redid the whole suspension. It's not the suspension. At least not on my truck. Also regeared with Yukon 4.10's. Not the gears either. Vibe still there. Anyone rebuilt their tranny/ transfer case yet?

Thanks!

I just got back from a Mechanic near my house, 2 tire shops, and a performance shop. I discussed this all with them, and showed them the 5 &1/4 oz of weight. All of them agreed that that much weight on one spot is way too much. I told them that I have also tested my 18" rims & tires and still have a vibration with them on. All 4 shops based on that said they think it it is in the drivetrain specifically referring to the axles, drive shaft, hubs or it could possibly in the suspension. Regardless that kind of weight is just masking the issue, and would mean that everytime i get an oil change and have teh tires rotated, they would have to perfectly rebalanced to continue to mask the real issue. 2 shops recommended that I rotate the front and rear rims to test the theory. If the vibration stays reduced it could be a bad rim (unlikely) if not the weight just masks the real problem. I have also set up an appointment to have the rims and tires checked at a shop that I trust, I'm not going to have them rebalanced there because I dont want it to screw anything up for arbitration, but I am going to get them checked.

yes people have had their rear ends rebuilt and it doesn't help. I have had lawfirms who have investigated the matter tell me that it is the design of these trucks and that all the mounts on the truck are why we all feel the vibration. It is merely a design flaw that GM refuses to fix.

dbt1127 · June 7, 2016

traded in my '14 double cab for a '16 crew cab last week....left the dealership and about 10 minutes later noticed a horrible shake vibration when in Drive stopped at a red light. Truck had 15 miles on it....ugh.

nasty nasty rough idle.

Took it in on yesterday morning, they spent the day doing repair PIP5211D, replacing motor mounts and adding shims. Seemed to do the trick. Drove for about 40 minutes in stop and go traffic. No vibration or shake when idling......until the 45 minute mark. It's back. Not as bad, but still very noticeable. I'll see how the drive home goes, but I have a feeling I'll be bringing it back sometime this week.

THE FRUSTRATION!!!!!

14silverado4.3 · June 7, 2016

_{I just came across this in the SandyBlogs http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?s=vibration}

_{Notice the propshaft requirements changed for 2014... as opposed to previous years}

_{If tires are suspected, swap tires from a known-good donor vehicle. Be sure to qualify the tires on the donor vehicle before swapping. This includes making sure the tires have 10-15 miles (16-24 km) on them to remove temporary flat-spotting.}

_{Be sure to drive the donor vehicle before swapping tires to be sure the donor does not exhibit the same condition. It is also advisable that the donor vehicle have the same axle ratio as the customer vehicle, to limit variables.}

_{When mounting tires, use the lubricant specified in Bulletin 12-03-10-001 and apply it as directed. Excessive lubricant, the wrong lubricant, or improper application can cause the tire to slip on the wheel during acceleration and braking. It helps to mark the tire/wheel relationship on the inboard side of the assembly so that any slippage can be noted. DO NOT use silicone or other products that are not designed specifically as tire mounting lubricants.}

_{If tires are ruled out, check propshaft runout. If propshaft imbalance is quite high, re-indexing the shaft may reduce imbalance.}

_{If ring and pinion runout is suspected, be sure to clean lubricant from the gears before taking backlash measurements. Lubricant can affect clearance, which could lead to misdiagnosis.}

_{If swapping a propshaft, an on-vehicle balance also may be necessary to eliminate a vibration condition. Check the appropriate Service Information for the correct specifications. For example, in earlier model year full-size trucks, a balance of 20-40 gram/centimeters was usually not felt by the driver. For the current full-size trucks (2014 Silverado and Sierra 1500 pickups, and all 2015 full-size pickups and SUVs), about 5-10 gram/centimeters is required to be acceptable.}

_{On full-size trucks with a 3.08 axle ratio, a tire with a 3rd order harmonic vibration can masquerade as a 1st order driveshaft issue. This 3rd order vibration can combine with the 1st order driveline vibration to create a phasing vibration (a vibration that seems to increase and decrease in amplitude at a steady speed). The correction is to make the 1st order vibration as low as possible to eliminate the phasing boom.}

_{A propshaft runout of 0.020-inch or less is required to satisfy a sensitive full-size truck owner.}

_{Adjusting the U-joint working angles on the current full-size trucks is normally accomplished by moving the center bearing up and/or shimming the axle pinion up about 2 degrees. It is generally not necessary to move the transmission up or down}

Shu · June 7, 2016

I found this statement entertaining

_{A propshaft runout of 0.020-inch or less is required to satisfy a sensitive full-size truck owner.}

Edited June 7, 2016 by Shu

Puckstop · June 7, 2016

Just dropped off my 2015 Yukon for a vibration in the rear. Noticed it the day I drove off the lot. It wasnt entirely consistent but started at 70mph thru about 80mph. I figured it was just a tire balance issue until my service advisor called me today and told me it was a known problem and they would do what they can. I have 2 other issues with it as well; the bottom 3rd of the radio/gps display will flicker from time to time and when I plug a phone into the usb ports, I get a frequency feedback thru the radio. Tried multiple cords and phones with same result. Anyone else have similar issues?

BO TIE 1 · June 7, 2016

Just dropped off my 2015 Yukon for a vibration in the rear. Noticed it the day I drove off the lot. It wasnt entirely consistent but started at 70mph thru about 80mph. I figured it was just a tire balance issue until my service advisor called me today and told me it was a known problem and they would do what they can. I have 2 other issues with it as well; the bottom 3rd of the radio/gps display will flicker from time to time and when I plug a phone into the usb ports, I get a frequency feedback thru the radio. Tried multiple cords and phones with same result. Anyone else have similar issues?

My 2014 Silverado doesnt even recognize any device I hook via usb. Try searching the forums for usb and you'll find some others with same problem. Oh yeah my truck vibrates too!

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TheFactor · June 7, 2016

So I was getting in my truck yesterday, and something caught my eye in the front driver rim. I check it out and look how much weight they put on it,I've never seen this much, its insane. They f*cking doubled it up on the same spot.

insane weight on driver front tire.png

Wow !!!!

I'm speechless and that says a lot lol.

pickmeup · June 7, 2016

Makes ya wonder if these wheels are round or square?

WLC · June 8, 2016

_{I just came across this in the SandyBlogs http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?s=vibration}

_{Notice the propshaft requirements changed for 2014... as opposed to previous years. What else has changed on these trucks starting in 2014? Maybe rule out one or more (combination) of changes to find the source of vibs.Here's mine. Engine firing order.}

LongrangeLauber · June 8, 2016

_{I just came across this in the SandyBlogs http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?s=vibration}

_{Notice the propshaft requirements changed for 2014... as opposed to previous years. What else has changed on these trucks starting in 2014? Maybe rule out one or more (combination) of changes to find the source of vibs.Here's mine. Engine firing order.}

_{Fully boxed frame}

_{Newly designed cab mounts}

_{New cab design}

_{Just a few big ones}

Edited June 8, 2016 by rdnckhntr94