Frame issues? Anyone else hearing this rumor?

[Coby7]

11 hours ago, slp40 said:

Literally LOL that this conversation is even being had that a frame would be so thin a standard lift could damage it. I just learned this today in a training session with Challenger lifts and am researching this topic because I honestly thought it was complete BS to sell add on items. Come to find out, it’s totally true and I’m completely offended that anyone would call a shop that didn’t have said “specialty Chevy approves lift pads” a hole in the wall. Basically, the lift can pickup a $300k Ferrari without tweaking the frame but not a brittle feeble 2019 Silverado. Are you people that brain washed than you think this is a tooling issue with garages and not pathetic engineering which is the true answer. So not only is this the ugliest truck Chevy could ever have designed its “Like a Rock” till you jack it up and bend the frame. Enjoy your tin can trash truck this thread and training today has reaffirmed my thinking that GM is complete trash now. 

Keep training, you're not there yet kid!

[SS502]

13 hours ago, slp40 said:

Literally LOL that this conversation is even being had that a frame would be so thin a standard lift could damage it. I just learned this today in a training session with Challenger lifts and am researching this topic because I honestly thought it was complete BS to sell add on items. Come to find out, it’s totally true and I’m completely offended that anyone would call a shop that didn’t have said “specialty Chevy approves lift pads” a hole in the wall. Basically, the lift can pickup a $300k Ferrari without tweaking the frame but not a brittle feeble 2019 Silverado. Are you people that brain washed than you think this is a tooling issue with garages and not pathetic engineering which is the true answer. So not only is this the ugliest truck Chevy could ever have designed its “Like a Rock” till you jack it up and bend the frame. Enjoy your tin can trash truck this thread and training today has reaffirmed my thinking that GM is complete trash now. 

Says the guy who owns a hole in the wall shop...who probably still thinks progressing from jacking a vehicle from a slot in the bumper was poor engineering.

[slp40]

8 hours ago, OnTheReel said:

Nobody is going to be taking their 60k dollar truck to your “behind the gas station” repair shop anyway, so get over it. If this was a crisis like you make it out to be, surely you wouldn’t have had to dredge up a 4+ month old thread full of conjecture to attempt to make a point.

 

Bottom line as I see it...GM dealers and any reputable shops will pay the $400 for the new pads and move on. If they don’t, and they poke holes in the frame with a narrow pad, that is 100% their problem. Car design changes constantly. It’s on the shops to keep up and be diligent. Sorry, that’s how it goes.

No behind the gas station repair facility here pal, 12 bay with ase and factory trained techs. The problem has nothing to do with the $400, I ordered several sets yesterday for my lifts that will accept the new pads. Problem is people don’t know about this and there really is no excuse for the frame to be that cheaply made and paper thin that a lift can damage it. GM made such a big deal about the Ford F-150 going aluminum maybe the marketing team at Ford should just jack on e of the new Silverados up and bend it for a commercial instead of dumping 50lb boulders in the bed from 10 feet above which no one is literally gong to do with their truck. Jacking it up and bending it is totally feasible of happening during everyday use with the 2019 Silverado. 

[Chris walker]

2 hours ago, slp40 said:

No behind the gas station repair facility here pal, 12 bay with ase and factory trained techs. The problem has nothing to do with the $400, I ordered several sets yesterday for my lifts that will accept the new pads. Problem is people don’t know about this and there really is no excuse for the frame to be that cheaply made and paper thin that a lift can damage it. GM made such a big deal about the Ford F-150 going aluminum maybe the marketing team at Ford should just jack on e of the new Silverados up and bend it for a commercial instead of dumping 50lb boulders in the bed from 10 feet above which no one is literally gong to do with their truck. Jacking it up and bending it is totally feasible of happening during everyday use with the 2019 Silverado. 

You come across rough in your delivery. If you would stick to the content which is "concern about a frame that might bend on a lift because a shop doesnt have special accessories" you might not get a vitriolic response. Your content is logical and does raise concern. 

 

With that said I share concern that a lift can bend and or damage a frame. We've all seen and heard the "horror" stories of trucks snapping in half on lifts due to rust or general failure. Im concerned when brand new trucks without rust are bending. I need to see some good pictures to make a final opinion.

 

I understand the "save a gram" philosophy to improve gas mileage but this has risks. ALL of these manufacturers are playing this game just hoping the product stays together. I can guarantee you they know the shortfalls and have done the math to screw the customer over and wash their hands - That includes Ford with their passion for aluminum. This is not a brand issue...

Edited January 25, 2019 by Chris walker

[g2full]

So... valid question here....

 

 

Is this for the 18-19's only? I have a 15, and it's good knowledge to have. As well, as it would be good knowledge for any shop that is reputable to have. I do most of my own stuff. But the dealer I work at only has those "flip up" adapters on their lifts. Never thought twice about throwing my 04 on it.

[tbarn]

19's + only. Do you work at a GM dealership? If so, do you not read TSB's, Techlink, see Emerging issues video's? It should be common knowledge a GM dealership.

Edited January 25, 2019 by tbarn

[g2full]

Just now, tbarn said:

19's + only. Do you wock at a GM dealership? If so, do you not read TSB's, Techlink, see Emerging issues video's? It should be common knowledge a GM dealership.

Sadly, no. Honda

[GMC-AT]

It engineered that way for a reason, weight savings (MPG) being the main reason I'm sure.  GM concern is front and rear impact crumble ... not from below, upward.  I'm sure we have an engineer on this board that can explain this better. 

But either way.. as stated.. it's not a brand thing.  Just the Auto Start / Stop feature everyone cries about.. it's all brands and it's here to stay. 

[redwngr]

It's always been true that if you lift something wrong, there is a good chance it or you will be damaged.

 

[protovack]

Yet another reason to wait 1-2 years after a new model comes out. 

That said, this is getting blown out of proportion. I won't make any judgement until I actually see a picture of a dented, punctured, or bent frame. 

If this is indeed a big problem, then it basically shows the trade off we are getting for the high MPG. 

 

[NWI Denali]

4 hours ago, protovack said:

Yet another reason to wait 1-2 years after a new model comes out. 

That said, this is getting blown out of proportion. I won't make any judgement until I actually see a picture of a dented, punctured, or bent frame. 

If this is indeed a big problem, then it basically shows the trade off we are getting for the high MPG. 

 

The T1 gets worse gas mileage than the outgoing K2. Lol

[CamaroGuy]

Why is anybody making a big deal about this?? It literally puts a small dimple in the bottom of the frame that has zero affect on the truck. It doesnt cause a single issue unless you crawl under your truck and look for a small dent and that bothers you. 

[the wanderer]

3 hours ago, CamaroGuy said:

Why is anybody making a big deal about this?? It literally puts a small dimple in the bottom of the frame that has zero affect on the truck. It doesnt cause a single issue unless you crawl under your truck and look for a small dent and that bothers you. 

From my laymans perspective I'd have to agree with that. There are kinds of youtube reviews/videos of (say) the AT4 lifting wheels of the ground while they run it through its paces. If the frame was weak, they'd be bending stuff left right and center but you never hear that anywhere.

 

/me thinks this is a tempest in a teapot.

[painter13312]

So, does anyone know what the width of the frame at it's widest point is?

[BlancoSilverado]

On 1/28/2019 at 10:18 AM, protovack said:

Yet another reason to wait 1-2 years after a new model comes out. 

That said, this is getting blown out of proportion. I won't make any judgement until I actually see a picture of a dented, punctured, or bent frame. 

If this is indeed a big problem, then it basically shows the trade off we are getting for the high MPG. 

 

Im with you,lol.

 

Does anyone have any pictures/visual proof that a frame got bent?

I know when i put it on my flat bay at Americas tire. I use the widest blocks to lift my truck. I dont see a problem with my frame.

Maybe if you lift it with the shitty jack the truck comes with on the widest part of the frame, instead of the lift locations?