Towing a Toy Hauler with 5.3L

[1300c]

I tried to download a chart showing the payload, and tow ratings but it didn't work from my phone. Sorry.

[redwngr]

What are the hitch ratings on these max tow trucks?

 

Travel trailer will have ~13% tongue wt + hitch equipment can overload the hitch max.

Mine has 1803lb payload label.

 

Hitch is labelled 1200lb tongue, 12,000lb trailer, and warns that hitch rating may exceed truck rating.

 

I'd bet it's the same hitch on all 1500's. The label is on the bottom (yes, facing the road - I had to lie on ground to read it)

 

Owners manual says 1500 max hitch load is 800lb with a weight carrying hitch, and 1200lb with a weight-distributing hitch.

For comparison, 2500 std box 1500 lb for weight carrying OR weight distributing.

[SouthpawHD]

Does the sticker on the door say 2000 pounds? The brochures say mine is ~1750 but the rear payload on the door is 300 lbs less.

 

Withe a 10000 trailer you'll likely have 1000 lbs of tongue weight eating up payload.

 

My 2015 GMC Sierra 1500 CCSB 4x4 max tow had a sticker around 2050 pounds.

[gmckenzie]

My payload (yellow sticker) is 2015. Brochure payload is 2220. Max trailer is 10,900. This is for a crew cab, short box 4X4 with max trailering (NHT).

[Georgia1911]

The max payload for any 1500 is 2,220 pounds for a DC 5.3 with NHT. GM shows higher payload for 5.3s than 6.2s because the curb weight is higher for 6.2s. See this link for details:

 

http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/silverado/2016.tab1.html

[Badass69]

Georgia1911, on 01 Feb 2016 - 10:38 AM, said:

The max payload for any 1500 is 2,220 pounds for a DC 5.3 with NHT. GM shows higher payload for 5.3s than 6.2s because the curb weight is higher for 6.2s. See this link for details:

 

http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/silverado/2016.tab1.html

 

It's all to do with options.... the engine itself weighs within single digits of one another. The cheaper the truck is option wise the more load capacity it can haul. An equally optioned 5.3 truck will have the same payload as one with a 6.2.... or very close. It's why regular cab long boxes generally have the highest overall payload ratings.

[1300c]

Basically a crew cab short bed 4x4

5.3l

3.08

Max payload = 1,820

Max towing = 6,200

3.42

Max payload = 1,820

Max towing = 9,200

3.73 (6 speed only)

Max payload = 2,210

Max towing = 10,900

 

6.2L

3.23

Max payload = 1,740

Max towing = 9,200

3.42

Max payload = 2,050

Max towing= 11,800

[2004lebanshee]

So looking at the GM link a 6.2 with max trailer 4x4 crew with short box shows as 2,010 max tong weight. That's better then I thought I was thinking they were around 1700 but still not good enough for the max weight.

 

Says its rated at 11,700 for a max trailer. Seems great.

 

EXE #1

11,000 Lb. travel trailer with 15% tong weight. This is the standard number could be more and could be less. Boats are usually less and trailers can be more.

= 1,650 on the hitch.

 

2,010 max payload -1650 tong weight.

= 360 lb. to spare for passengers (200lb driver and one 160lb passenger no road pop with this set up). If your fat, have 3 people, or want to put anything in the truck your over and need a smaller trailer.

 

EXE #2

 

It can handle this right?

 

10,000 lb trailer = 1,500 lb. tong

2010-1500= 510 lbs. left ( now you can take two 200 lb. adults and a big dog). Still not filling the truck with 4 passengers or gear (fire wood, beer, ect). Maybe you camp light.

 

 

This is why a 1/2 ton max what ever is still not practical or smart for a trailer over 9,000 lbs. Do what you want but if your over and get in a wreck and hurt someone I guarantee your insurance stiffs you and you lose everything you own. It doesn't matter if your smart. If someone stops short or cuts you off like an a$$ and you hit them you screwed. Can the truck pull heavier sure it could probably pull a semi but its like drunk driving you could lose everything doing it. Good luck. This is JMO.

 

 

I typically put the realistic max at about 80% of what its rated for. That's what I could put my family and gear in and use with out worry. If you have dodge it's around 70% due to low payload ratings from excess weight. Ford is higher.

[1300c]

So looking at the GM link a 6.2 with max trailer 4x4 crew with short box shows as 2,010 max tong weight. That's better then I thought I was thinking they were around 1700 but still not good enough for the max weight.

 

Says its rated at 11,700 for a max trailer. Seems great.

 

EXE #1

11,000 Lb. travel trailer with 15% tong weight. This is the standard number could be more and could be less. Boats are usually less and trailers can be more.

= 1,650 on the hitch.

 

2,010 max payload -1650 tong weight.

= 360 lb. to spare for passengers (200lb driver and one 160lb passenger no road pop with this set up). If your fat, have 3 people, or want to put anything in the truck your over and need a smaller trailer.

 

EXE #2

 

It can handle this right?

 

10,000 lb trailer = 1,500 lb. tong

2010-1500= 510 lbs. left ( now you can take two 200 lb. adults and a big dog). Still not filling the truck with 4 passengers or gear (fire wood, beer, ect). Maybe you camp light.

 

 

This is why a 1/2 ton max what ever is still not practical or smart for a trailer over 9,000 lbs. Do what you want but if your over and get in a wreck and hurt someone I guarantee your insurance stiffs you and you lose everything you own. It doesn't matter if your smart. If someone stops short or cuts you off like an a$$ and you hit them you screwed. Can the truck pull heavier sure it could probably pull a semi but its like drunk driving you could lose everything doing it. Good luck. This is JMO.

 

 

I typically put the realistic max at about 80% of what its rated for. That's what I could put my family and gear in and use with out worry. If you have dodge it's around 70% due to low payload ratings from excess weight. Ford is higher.

I don't disagree with you. I love the 2500 duramax I tow with everyday. I just wanted to put out the actual towing numbers. Others earlier on said they only tow a few times a year pulling like 5000lbs and maybe 10,000 pounds rarely. My point is if your dead set on a 1/2 ton get the 6.2l with the max towing. If your getting a 3/4 ton I'd do whatever I need to get the duramax. The 6.0l pulling 10,000 lbs wasn't impressive when we towed with one on a test drive. The Allison and exhaust brake makes stopping the duramax, along with brakes on every axle an easy task.

 

Bigger is always better when towing.

[SouthpawHD]

I don't disagree with you. I love the 2500 duramax I tow with everyday. I just wanted to put out the actual towing numbers. Others earlier on said they only tow a few times a year pulling like 5000lbs and maybe 10,000 pounds rarely. My point is if your dead set on a 1/2 ton get the 6.2l with the max towing. If your getting a 3/4 ton I'd do whatever I need to get the duramax. The 6.0l pulling 10,000 lbs wasn't impressive when we towed with one on a test drive. The Allison and exhaust brake makes stopping the duramax, along with brakes on every axle an easy task.

 

Bigger is always better when towing.

 

Oh crap, I should have gotten a 3500. Ha, ha.

 

I have stated this before, but in my example my max tow could easily tow my trailer weighing around 5500-6000 pounds. But the TT has a huge tongue weight of over 900 pounds and I have 6 total passengers that left me close on my overall payload.

[1300c]

 

Oh crap, I should have gotten a 3500. Ha, ha.

 

I have stated this before, but in my example my max tow could easily tow my trailer weighing around 5500-6000 pounds. But the TT has a huge tongue weight of over 900 pounds and I have 6 total passengers that left me close on my overall payload.

When in doubt, option it out lol. Besides is just money right?

[2004lebanshee]

IMO if I was going to spend 55K+ on a 1/2 ton that I would tow with. I would spend a little more (maybe less) and get a 3/4 Diesel. WAY more power, WAY better resale and pretty much better everything. If they would offer the max with a 6.2 at a lower level in price then it would be a great choice.

[SouthpawHD]

When in doubt, option it out lol. Besides is just money right?

 

They print more everyday.

 

I was lucky though, I didn't lose any money on the trade in.

[Red_5]

Wow, my pretty loaded '15 SLT Crew Cab, standard bed, 6.2, 4wd, Max Tow, sunroof, side steps, driver alert package, heated/cooled seats . . . is only rated max payload of 1791 according to the door jamb sticker. Good thing I'm planning on a smallish travel trailer.

[Jon A]

EXE #1

11,000 Lb. travel trailer with 15% tong weight. This is the standard number could be more and could be less. Boats are usually less and trailers can be more.

= 1,650 on the hitch.

 

No, it is not the standard number. The industry standard number is 10% for bumper-pull. Why not say they can't tow 5000 lbs because your new made-up standard is 40% tongue weight? You can win every argument if you can make up the standards. It's possible you have a trailer so configured, but that does not make it an argument that applies to everybody else.

 

The industry standard is 10%. Some trailers will be more, some will be less and it is often adjustable by how you load the trailer. When making a blanket argument about what trucks can tow what loads, using an exceptionally heavy tongue weight well above standard is not a convincing choice.

 

 

= 360 lb. to spare for passengers (200lb driver and one 160lb passenger no road pop with this set up).

 

150 lbs for the driver is already included. The "scale weight" of the vehicle is typically 150 lbs below its "curb weight" that is subtracted from the GVWR to get the number on the yellow sticker.