issue RECALL - Fire Risk

[2016 Sierra Owner]

Maybe GM should do what the tessler guy did.. recall is to harsh of a word.. its a program upgrade

It certainly would be easier. They just download the updates to the Tesla cars via wifi so no need to take them to the dealer.

[TxTruckMan]

It certainly would be easier. They just download the updates to the Tesla cars via wifi so no need to take them to the dealer.

This would be nice, until a botched download bricks your ecm.

 

I got my recall done on Friday. Just took a few minutes. No big deal.

[SLESierra]

BECAUSE AS AN AMERICAN CONSUMER I AM SICK AND TIRED OF ***ALL*** MANUFACTURERS PRODUCING OVERPRICED JUNK!!

 

I demand ethics & honesty return to manufacturing. This goes for everything from dishwashers to pickups! We're getting SCREWED, and people just sit back and take it like good little sheep.

 

I will happily call out and ridicule ANY manufacturer that sends out a $40k + vehicle with failures like this! How many Model T's caught fire in 1914? In 100 years of manufacturing, you mean we STILL haven't learned to produce a QUALITY product??? It's 2014!! People carry hand held computers for God's sake!

 

There is NO excuse for this. NONE. If you think this is acceptable, then God help you.

How many Model Ts had to meet EPA requirements while trying to meet the demands and modifications of the gadget minded public? If you are comparing a Model T to a current model year vehicle then God help you. The Model T known to leak, break down, catch fire, and had floor boards constructed of wood couldn't traverse a muddy street without getting stuck in most instances. The 2014 Chevrolet Silverado on the other hand can handle most weather conditions, will protect you in most accidents, and does not require you to carry water to complete your journey.

Software is going to have bugs, parameters in software WILL need adjustments once in the field. That handheld computer you are carrying in your hand is on what version of it's operating system since its release. You cell phone carrier updates periodically and usually without notice to keep its equipment running in the field. Even that handheld computer you are carrying is guilty of fires from its own battery.

I myself being an IT person think nothing of this, if it were say a tie rod failing due to being engineered cheaply now I could see the argument but to cry about a software parameter update is not either understanding the recall or just not knowing all that is involved with keeping your environment clean.

[SLESierra]

This would be nice, until a botched download bricks your ecm.

 

I got my recall done on Friday. Just took a few minutes. No big deal.

this is coming to all vehicles I believe - on bricking the modules I believe they will be like most modern devices if the checksum does not pass then I believe it will resort back to the original parameters until a clean upgrade will complete.

[Jsdirt]

How many Model Ts had to meet EPA requirements while trying to meet the demands and modifications of the gadget minded public? If you are comparing a Model T to a current model year vehicle then God help you. The Model T known to leak, break down, catch fire, and had floor boards constructed of wood couldn't traverse a muddy street without getting stuck in most instances. The 2014 Chevrolet Silverado on the other hand can handle most weather conditions, will protect you in most accidents, and does not require you to carry water to complete your journey.

Software is going to have bugs, parameters in software WILL need adjustments once in the field. That handheld computer you are carrying in your hand is on what version of it's operating system since its release. You cell phone carrier updates periodically and usually without notice to keep its equipment running in the field. Even that handheld computer you are carrying is guilty of fires from its own battery.

I myself being an IT person think nothing of this, if it were say a tie rod failing due to being engineered cheaply now I could see the argument but to cry about a software parameter update is not either understanding the recall or just not knowing all that is involved with keeping your environment clean.

Well then, maybe THE GOVERNMENT should keep their damn noses OUT of engineers business, and let the FREE MARKET dictate how complex vehicles get?

 

AH, but then what will you sheep do without having your hand held by "daddy gov't" at every turn. Don't buy the 'eco" crap - it's the biggest scam going. A big power grab - but, believe what you want - it's your money.

 

If the people who designed the truck CANNOT FIGURE OUT a problem BEFORE it is launched to the public, then maybe the vehicle is GETTING TOO COMPLEX!!! HELLO!!

 

I'll take a leaky, rattly, sputtering Model T any day over anything Detroit puts out these days. Really says something about manufacturers when their city's government can't even keep it together (BANKRUPT!). Birds of a feather ........

[SLESierra]

Well then, maybe THE GOVERNMENT should keep their damn noses OUT of engineers business, and let the FREE MARKET dictate how complex vehicles get?

 

AH, but then what will you sheep do without having your hand held by "daddy gov't" at every turn. Don't buy the 'eco" crap - it's the biggest scam going. A big power grab - but, believe what you want - it's your money.

 

If the people who designed the truck CANNOT FIGURE OUT a problem BEFORE it is launched to the public, then maybe the vehicle is GETTING TOO COMPLEX!!! HELLO!!

 

I'll take a leaky, rattly, sputtering Model T any day over anything Detroit puts out these days. Really says something about manufacturers when their city's government can't even keep it together (BANKRUPT!). Birds of a feather ........

Just exactly where do you suggest I buy a vehicle that is not built to modern standards the EPA sets? Your 07 has software running it. The only difference between your engine and mine is port vs direct injection and a few other mechanical additions

[MikeNH]

I agree that the feds need to back off but please explain how Chrysler, headquartered in Auburn Hills and Ford, headquartered in Dearborn have anything to do with Detroit being run by fools. Even with GM being headquartered there- It's a corporate headquarters, filled with white collar workers who live in the suburbs, not Detroit. Detroit's problems are traced back to the kind of person the citizens there kept putting in the mayors office.

[Jsdirt]

Just

exactly where do you suggest I buy a vehicle that is not built to

modern standards the EPA sets? Your 07 has software running it. The only

difference between your engine and mine is port vs direct injection and

a few other mechanical additions

 

 

That's exactly my point - the government SHOULD get it's nose OUT of the automotive industry ....... but with the state of affairs we have today, it'll never happen in a million years.

 

SO, to that end, I will NOT by another vehicle that has any electronics in it. My choice. I want SIMPLICITY AND RELIABILITY. I'll build my own vehicle based on a pre-'73 platform and brand of my choice when the time comes.

 

 

 

[Jsdirt]

Mike, wasn't talking about Ford or Chrysler in this instance ....

[mdaniel]

That's exactly my point - the government SHOULD get it's nose OUT of the automotive industry ....... but with the state of affairs we have today, it'll never happen in a million years.

 

SO, to that end, I will NOT by another vehicle that has any electronics in it. My choice. I want SIMPLICITY AND RELIABILITY. I'll build my own vehicle based on a pre-'73 platform and brand of my choice when the time comes.

 

 

 

 

That's reasonable. I for one believe the government should not stick their noses into private business. That would include healthcare and bailing out non-performing businesses. I like GM, but it is getting increasingly difficult to support them, well all auto manufacturers for that matter. I want a V-8 truck, crew cab built in the US with as much US parts as possible. Pretty weird that the Tundra is high up on the list.

A lot of people on various truck forums call consumers that purchase 1/2 ton trucks, 'grocery getters'. I wonder what % of consumers that purchase a 1/2 ton truck actually tow with it? I would guess that a high % of people buying these trucks today do not use a truck as a truck. That is ok, buy what you like. I believe that all truck manufacturers are trying to get the best gas mileage out of their vehicles as possible, through better technology and lighter materials. It is being driven by government and by the consumer actually buying that vehicle. Whether it GM, Ford, Ram they all tout their gas mileage statistics on their commercials. It is a big factor when one buys a new vehicle in this day and age. Just wait til a major hurricane hits the Southeast and shuts refineries down and gas does go to $5-$6 per gallon. It will be important then to have a vehicle that gets decent mileage. Certainly if one needs a truck to do real work, then there are many options in the 3/4 - 1 ton variety.

[Jsdirt]

Yeah, sad times we live in.

 

I believe that had the government never been involved, the market would have eventually come up with something better many years ago, if that's what people wanted. If they got sick of 10mpg, and someone produced a truck that got 15, then everyone would flock to the 15, forcing the manufacturer to match or better 15. That's how the free market is SUPPOSED to work,, but sadly we haven't had a truly free market in quite some time ...

 

Take a big block V8, carbed and HEI, install peanut heads, 700r4 with Gear Vendors splitter bolted to the back, and I'll have more torque than my 5.3, AND BETTER mileage. Ive seen guys with that setup in a 70's 3/4 ton 4x4 getting 20 mpg on the highway. That's my kind of truck. If I had used my head back in '07, that's what I'd be driving.

[dkeven]

Had my recall done friday on the GMC SLT Crew 5.3, also did the fuel pressure regulator one, the other two were done previously, maybe its just me but seems to idle a bit rougher as in dropped cylinders, and seems to stay in v8 vs v4 mode longer or easier. Could be my lead foot coming into play. Nothing else noticeable and not a big enough change to warrant concern, mileage seems about the same as I was getting before, roughly 18 the way I drive.

Concerned about amount of recalls and some such stuff? Had a 2012 Wrangler previously if you want spectacular fires look at theirs. Dont expect perfection, do expect problems identified to be fixed asap, aside from seat stick slip thing I believe they have done so and will continue to. really liked the jeep but to many problems kept cropping up reguiring loaners, like this even better so far no loaners and much better creature comfort.

[Sir Dan]

Yup, looks like my "avoid first run model years" rule pays off again.

[svtkidd23]

Yup, looks like my "avoid first run model years" rule pays off again.

Yeah i know

 

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[Delta Tango]

While I agree with most of the previous topics regarding gov't envlovement, the "Model T' comparison, and even "eco-crap", let's not forget that when you buy ANY North American built vehicle, I believe the majority of your hard earned dollar is kept here, at home. And those that insist on buying off shore with the thought the quality is better, I don't believe that.

We have a service writer friend who used to work for a BMW dealership and she was busier with defect work orders than regular maintenance requests.

Now that people spend money on vehicles from Germany, Japan and even Korea, we in North America have paid the price. And our children will really pay the price in the future.

Our North American vehicles are just as good as any thing off shore, if not better.